In any case their lack of cohesion after their loss of the Lucifer suggests a structure to their command, be it a social structure or like hive animals. You would expect intelligent beings or unthinking beasts alike to scatter - but they stayed. While obviously defeated and disorganised they stayed and fought. This doesn't answer the behaviour of the remnant fleet after the defeat of the Lucifer. Had we not been at war, or been so quick to form an alliance, no doubt we would have all suffered the same fate as Vasuda Prime. It was not the Shivan's aim to bring us together, but a fortunate consequence. They were drawn to our war disturbing subspace like piranhas to the smell of blood. It seems indistinguishable from the behaviour of an unintelligent animalistic apex predator seeking only to preserve dominance through instinct. Is this their objective? To protect the universe? In a sense we do owe them many debts, for saving us from the Shivans and also for providing a common enemy so that we could focus on our similarities with our Vasudan allies.īut I'm unconvinced. It was therefore postulated that the Shivan's are the great preserver, the immune response of the universe to violations of peace. It's undoubtedly true that we were saved from the viciousness of the Ancients by the Shivans. By their own admission the Ancients were a terrible war warmongering race (not to dissimilar to us during our shameful war with the Vasudans I will pointedly note!). The first hypothesis is from soon after the Great War when we learned that the Ancients were wiped out by the very same Shivans. It's not even sure if the have the intelligence to formulate an objective. What If Fiction ( This is the best place for 'general' questions)įor non-serious answers for real world science problems try:Īnd just for fun, don't forget to check out our friends at Who would win ( Go here for questions about who would win in a fight or competition between two or more characters) This subreddit is for discussion of fiction using information about the universe and not meta information about the work. Spoilers from works older than six months may optionally be concealed using our flair system, however this is CSS-based and will work only in browsers.Our Spoiler policy must be observed for six months following the date of release.Comment spoilers should be formatted on a separate line as >!.Replace 'Canon' with the work or body of fiction in question. If only the body of your post contains spoilers, you may instead make the title ' Spoilers: Canon' and not use the link flair. The title of your post should not contain spoilers for six months from the date of release.'Speed Force' with no further explanation when asked a question about the Flash) do not constitute satisfactory answers. Report anything that discusses metadata or involves personal attacks. Upvote good content downvote incorrect information.(This doesn't, of course, mean there isn't room for further discussion.) Search for your question, it may have been asked and answered before.Any sort of competition questions belong in whowouldwin.AskScience and AskHistorians exist for that. r/whatiffiction, a sister subreddit, has rules more accommodating to these sort of questions. General questions are discouraged without a firm set of in-universe rules, most of them boil down to 'whatever the writer chooses' in terms of answers.

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